23 August 2023

EXCLUSIVE ABC NEWS INTERVIEW TO DR. SEAN KIRKPATRICK

Dr. SEAN KIRKPATRICK is the Director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office [AARO] at the United States Department of Defense.

He is also a Professor of Physics at the University of Georgia, specializing in laser and materials.

 

His last public appearance was at the public meeting convened by the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, on April 19, 2023.

 

It was at the end of that meeting that he promised that AARO would present the next official report (with classified and public versions) around June or July 2023. Nevertheless, we are already on August 23, and there is no hint about that report.

 

But  on August 2, 2023, Dr. Kirkpatrick wrote a personal note under the title “Hearings and Transparence” in which –after the public hearing on UAP, done by  the House National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs— he defends the work of AARO and the quality of the people working on it.

 

While we are still waiting for the new AARO report, we found it very important to share what Dr. Kirkpatrick said in an exclusive interview done by Devin Dwyer, Tommy Brooksbank, and Jon Schlosberg on July 20, 2023, that is before the public hearing where US Navy pilots Ryan Graves and David Fravor, and former Air Force Intelligence Officer David Grusch declared as witnesses and whistleblower respectively.

 

It is a ABC News interview, and here it is “in totum”. 

Extraterrestrial 'technical surprise' is a top concern, Pentagon UFO investigator says

The scientist and military intelligence officer leading the Pentagon's task force for unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) -- which the public calls UFOs -- says being caught off guard by "intelligent or extraterrestrial technical surprise" remains a top concern as investigators analyze more than 800 cases of mysterious sightings reported by U.S. military personnel dating back decades.

"Data and science has to guide where you go, and we will follow the data," Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick said last month, in an exclusive first interview after his appointment to the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.

Congress established the office last year to coordinate efforts across federal agencies to "detect, identify and attribute" mysterious objects of interest in the air, in outer space and underwater, with special focus on mitigating potential threats to military operations and national security.

"The most common misconception is that [the possible phenomena] are all the same thing and they're all extraterrestrial, and neither of those are true," Kirkpatrick said.

"We have to go through the rigor of taking each one, matching it against our known objects and catalogs and then reviewing that -- peer reviewing that -- and making sure that everybody's in agreement," he said of the process, which has included establishing a government-wide data collection initiative.

The AARO has looked into some high-profile UAP sightings, highlighted in congressional hearings, including a 2019 video recording taken by Navy sailors of glowing triangles floating above them.

The vast majority of cases reviewed since the office was established are "readily explainable," Kirkpatrick said, noting that final, evidence-based determinations remain slow and ongoing.

Many reported phenomena are later attributed as likely balloons, drones, debris or animals, such as large birds, he said.

That 2019 video was later determined to be ordinary drones distorted by night-vision goggles.

"I have a full range of hypotheses: On one end of the spectrum, it's advanced technology that's coming from an adversary. Right in the middle, I have all my known objects -- balloons and drones and birds and whatnot. And then on the far end of the spectrum, we have extraterrestrials," said Kirkpatrick.

A small number of the reports –- roughly 2-5% of cases –- are unexplained anomalies, including the so called 2004 "Tic Tac" incident.

Congress established the office last year to coordinate efforts across federal agencies to "detect, identify and attribute" mysterious objects of interest in the air, in outer space and underwater, with special focus on mitigating potential threats to military operations and national security.

"The most common misconception is that [the possible phenomena] are all the same thing and they're all extraterrestrial, and neither of those are true," Kirkpatrick said.

"We have to go through the rigor of taking each one, matching it against our known objects and catalogs and then reviewing that -- peer reviewing that -- and making sure that everybody's in agreement," he said of the process, which has included establishing a government-wide data collection initiative.

The vast majority of cases reviewed since the office was established are "readily explainable," Kirkpatrick said, noting that final, evidence-based determinations remain slow and ongoing.

Many reported phenomena are later attributed as likely balloons, drones, debris or animals, such as large birds, he said.

That  2019 video was later determined to be ordinary drones distorted by night-vision goggles.

"I have a full range of hypotheses: On one end of the spectrum, it's advanced technology that's coming from an adversary. Right in the middle, I have all my known objects -- balloons and drones and birds and whatnot. And then on the far end of the spectrum, we have extraterrestrials," said Kirkpatrick.

A small number of the reports –- roughly 2-5% of cases –- are unexplained anomalies, including the so called 2004 "Tic Tac" incident.

The proliferation of conspiracy theories spawned by the UAPs has inspired a sense of bipartisan urgency on Capitol Hill.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, backed by other top Democrats and Republicans, this month called for greater transparency by the government. Legislation he proposed would force the National Archives to collect and publicly release records related to UAP reports within 25 years of when they were created unless there is a compelling national security concern.

"There is something there -- measurable light, multiple instruments -- and yet it seems to move in directions inconsistent with what we know of physics or science more broadly. And that, to me, poses questions of tremendous interest, as well as potential national security significance," Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said during a House Intelligence Committee hearing on UAPs in 2022.

Multiple congressional committees have also explored concerns that the mysterious sightings could be evidence of surveillance by other countries.

"My priority is that we understand the full range of threats posed by our adversaries in all domains," Republican Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, said during an Armed Services Committee hearing on UAPs in April.

For his part, Kirkpatrick is focused on the gathering of facts and evidence. "A lot of these stories, a lot of these allegations, crop up again and again over history," he said. "I'm not going to jump ahead to conclusions until we have more data."

Asked whether he believes intelligent extraterrestrial life exists, Kirkpatrick said: "I think it's statistically unrealistic to think it isn't" and that finding it would be "probably the best outcome of this job."

 

Milton W. Hourcade

UAPSG International Coordinator

 

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